Re: FW: RIN service discontinuation

Bill Murray (billmurray2@hotmail.com)
Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:27:02 PST

Glad to hear that the RIN service is not going to be dropped, especially
since this turned out to be about the only tool useful for one recent
search. The forwarded message also mentions a new version of Markush
TOPFRAG. What is the Y2K readiness of this software? What about
Derpict, and other Derwent software products? I will admit I did not
thoroughly scour www.derwent.com before posing this question but I did
see some mention of Y2K efforts. On the other hand, I have already been
assured quite clearly that my STN Express with Discover will not break
down next year.

Bill Murray

DuPont CR&D
Wilmington, DE
(302) 992-2672
email reply address: William.M.Murray@USA.Dupont.com or
billmurray2@hotmail.com

>From: "Simmons, Edlyn, HMR/US" <Edlyn.Simmons@hmrag.com>
>To: "'piug-l'" <piug-l@derwent.tecc.co.uk>
>Subject: FW: RIN service discontinuation
>Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:34:54 -0600

>
>I have received the attached message from Derwent Customer Service.
>
>In a nutshell, the response was that the RIN service is being
discontinued
>as a separate product and that new RINs will not be created in the
future,
>but that indexers will continue assigning existing RIN codes to new
patents.
>This appears to be a situation we can live with.
>
>Edlyn Simmons
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Customer Services [mailto:CustomerServices@Derwent.co.uk]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 8:08 AM
>To: 'Edlyn.Simmons@hmrag.com'
>Subject:
>
> Dear Edlyn
>
> In response to your queries regarding cessation of the RIN service
> which you recently posted to the PIUG, we would like to address
your
> concerns and also take this opportunity to clarify some of the
points
> which you have raised.
>
> Firstly, as you are aware, Derwent defines a Ring Index
> Number (RIN) as a code applied to a chemical ring system which
does
> not have a specific chemical fragmentation code, and this
therefore
> allows more precise searching of chemical ring systems. The RIN
> Service provides an update of all the new RINs generated by
Derwent
> Indexers as they encounter them for the first time in patent
> documents.
>
> The RIN Service is now subscribed to by only a relatively small
number
> of customers (approximately 20), and only a very small number of
new
> RINs are currently being generated by our Indexers each week. In
> addition to this the same information covered by RINs already
forms
> part of DWPIM (MMS), and will also be duplicated as a part of the
> proposed DCR indexing for DWPI. Consequently, it seems clear that
the
> requirement for the generation of new RINs is diminishing.
>
> Therefore, it was decided that the RIN Service should cease in
> January 1999, when Derwent's indexing teams process the final 1998
> data (in Derwent week 9851). All existing RIN Service customers
will
> get the final instalment of RIN data files once they are processed
in
> the next few weeks.
>
> However, as you suggest, there is still a need for our Indexers
> (Analysts) to continue to apply existing RINs (particularly for
users
> of Markush TOPFRAG), and this is fully appreciated by Derwent. We
> would like to reassure you that all existing RINs will continue to
be
> used by our Indexing staff.
>
> An updated version of Markush TOPFRAG was expected to be launched
> towards the end of last year, and it had been our intention to
combine
> that announcement with that of the discontinuation of the RIN
Service
> (as we believed this approach would be the best way to inform all
> interested parties). However, the new version of Markush TOPFRAG
has
> been slightly delayed, so the joint announcement has not yet been
sent
> out. Unfortunately we did not fully appreciate within Derwent
that
> this would also delay notification of the RIN Service
developments.
>
> We can only apologise for this oversight.
>
> Derwent has invested a lot of time and effort to ensure that
Chemical
> Indexing (BCE Chemical Fragmentation Coding) continues to be
applied
> alongside DCR indexing. We are committed to the concept of
Chemical
> Indexing as a retrieval mechanism for customers (as we have
> demonstrated in the past), and will continue to develop and apply
it
> alongside our other forms of indexing, until such time as our
> customers request otherwise.
>
> We hope this information answers your queries and allays any fears
you
> may have had.
>
> Please feel free to post any information contained within this
reply
> to the PIUG bulletin board, if you feel it to be of interest to
other
> PIUG members. In the meantime, we will work speedily to send out
a
> formal notice to this effect to everyone affected.
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Derwent Customer Services
>
>

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