Are we witnessing another case where an information provider releases a
new patent information product without proper consultation with key
users? You would think that after several failures, people would begin
to get the message...So let's hope for the best.... Anyway, looks like
maybe another beta test for some of you to consider adding to your
already long lists.
If it is M-CAM, then I suppose there is a possibility the data could be
from Univentio? See http://www.m-cam.com/press/20020206_univentio.html
<http://www.m-cam.com/press/20020206_univentio.html> ).
If so, this might be a positive sign. It's all speculation at this
point though, since the marketing thing wasn't very informative, and is
apparently intended to by-pass the likes of us! History repeats itself
:>(
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----- Original Message -----
From: Pandya, <mailto:Dilip.Pandya@alza.com> Dilip
To: piug-l@derwent.co.uk <mailto:piug-l@derwent.co.uk>
Cc: 'patinfosmith@comcast.net' <mailto:'patinfosmith@comcast.net'>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: SAS unveils new patent analysis service
http://www.m-cam.com/doors/ <http://www.m-cam.com/doors/>
I found a clue in their Wall Street Journal advertisement today that
they may be using M.CAM doors software.Dilip
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Smith [mailto:patinfosmith@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 1:49 PM
To: piug-l@derwent.co.uk <mailto:piug-l@derwent.co.uk>
Subject: RE: SAS unveils new patent analysis service
I'd like to know what database SAS is accessing in just a few seconds,
containing 98% of electronic patent documents from 80 patent-issuing
authorities, What about the older pre-electronic prior art? Do they
search chemical structures? They make the initial search sound so easy,
when it's really not.
Sandy Smith
Patent InfoSmith, LLC
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk [mailto:owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk] On
Behalf Of Zimmermann, Roy
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:31 PM
To: Pandya, Dilip; piug-l@derwent.co.uk
Subject: RE: SAS unveils new patent analysis service
We patent searchers among the PIUG membership who regularly provide
litigation support searching should note the SAS pricing below, viz.:
"SAS will offer preliminary findings at no charge during the initial
call or shortly thereafter. The cost to engage SAS to provide an
in-depth search and analysis of relevant prior art is $50,000. If the
prior art found by SAS results in an actual savings to the customer, SAS
also charges a portion of the savings, usually 10 percent."
If SAS can sell their prior art discovery process for that kind of
pricing, we searchers clearly are underpaid.
Roy Zimmermann
Principal Patent Information Specialist
763-505-2527 763-505-2530 (Fax)
roy.zimmermann@medtronic.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Pandya, Dilip [mailto:Dilip.Pandya@alza.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:07 PM
To: piug-l@derwent.co.uk
Subject: SAS unveils new patent analysis service
Dear PIUG members, this news release may be of interest to you.
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