I simply don't see why people should have to receive mail from two
lists, and I don't understand all the fuss about a simple job posting, a
useful service we've been providing for ages. One would think that the
list had been pirated by some sort of manic headhunter. Doesn't anyone
have anything better to do???
- Sara Davis, GlaxoSmithKline
"Turner, Elyse" <elyse_turner@merck.com>
Sent by: owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk
29-Oct-2002 10:40
To: "'Hayden, Damian'", "'Reiner Michael'"
cc: "'piug-l@derwent.co.uk'"
Subject: RE: Job posting
Damian,
I don't know what Michael envisioned, but I envisioned two PIUG
Discussion
Lists that all of us could be subscribed to: one for discussion, one for
job
postings. This would not change the playing field as far as I can see.
As for the searching, that has to do with an archive and should have the
same access as the current archive. Again, should have no change to the
playing field.
But all of this is hypothetical because I do not know how to do such
things.
However, I think the current PIUG Discussion List is pretty good so I
plan
to use the same philosophy I used to work with Sandra Unger to develop
the
current list for any future developments. I will keep your comments in
mind.
Thank you.
Elyse
Elyse D. Robinson Turner - Sr. Information Scientist
Patent Department, Merck & Co., Inc. RY 60-35
732-594-6418 [Mon+Tues+Fri] 215-757-2555 [Wed+Thurs]
elyse_turner@merck.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Hayden, Damian [mailto:Damian_Hayden@chiron.com]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:39 PM
To: 'Reiner Michael'
Cc: 'piug-l@derwent.co.uk'
Subject: RE: Job posting
Michael,
Your call for a job postings database has been answered only in the
negative, albeit politely. PIUG readers should know you now as someone
who
doesn't listen to the advice of his colleagues. Or suspect you as
someone
with an ulterior motive.
Aside from the many aspects of convenience mentioned already by others
in
this discussion thread, there is the added value of democratizing the
job
search process that an email list enables. Anyone can post a job that
is
accessible to all potentially interested parties at the same time. To
change this is to give an advantage to one potential headhunter, the
'job
postings administrator'. Is this your real motive? Recruiter postings
are
an important part of the PIUG list, so it would be a shame to unlevel
the
playing field. Whatever your answer, an introduction about yourself
would
be welcome.
- Damian
Damian Hayden
Sr. Information Specialist
Chiron Corp
dhayden@chiron.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Reiner Michael [mailto:michael_reiner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 4:53 PM
To: Diane Dekany; Lambert, Nancy (NELA); Turner, Elyse
Cc: 'piug-l@derwent.co.uk'
Subject: RE: Job posting
Well let's try it. Can we at least do that? I would
like to think of our job postings more than just
"Nigerian Scams"
--- Diane Dekany <diane.dekany@sopheon.com> wrote:
> I think things are fine the way they are. It's not
> like there are dozens of
> job listings that come through this listserv.
>
> If someone (Michael or whoever) wants to go to the
> trouble of creating and
> administering and managing a job board, then more
> power to you ... but I
> don't see the point of changing something that most
> of us hadn't thought was
> "broken".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reiner Michael
> [mailto:michael_reiner@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 6:44 PM
> To: Lambert, Nancy (NELA); Turner, Elyse
> Cc: 'piug-l@derwent.co.uk'
> Subject: RE: Job posting
>
>
>
> Nancy,
>
> First I think it would give people an opportunity to
> search for specific criteria related to the job.
>
> Secondly, I would be willing to administer this and
> I'll give a proposal to Elyse in the next few days
> to
> do this.
>
> I think the added value would be beneficial to all
> members.
>
> Change is good Nancy!
>
> Michael
>
> --- "Lambert, Nancy (NELA)" <NELA@chevrontexaco.com>
> wrote:
> > Do we really want a separate job posting board?
> It
> > occurs to me that this
> > might be a major pain in the neck. It would have
> to
> > be set up and
> > maintained (probably to the considerable annoyance
> > of our hosts at Derwent
> > and Chemical Abstracts), and people would have to
> > remember to go to it
> > separately to see job postings.
> >
> > This seems to be to be rather a tempest in a
> teapot.
> > If the PIUG discussion
> > list were glutted with job postings, I could
> > understand the fuss; but it
> > averages about one posting per week. No one else
> > has found this worth
> > complaining about. They are harvested monthly and
> > added to the job postings
> > archive on the PIUG Web site, where they are
> > accessible retroactively.
> >
> > The process seems to work well. It's not broken
> --
> > why create more work,
> > and possibly a worse process, trying to fix it?
> >
> > Nancy Lambert
> > nela@chevrontexaco.com
> > 510-242-3161
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Reiner Michael
> > [mailto:michael_reiner@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:50 AM
> > To: Turner, Elyse
> > Cc: 'piug-l@derwent.co.uk'
> > Subject: RE: Job posting
> >
> >
> > Elyse,
> >
> > In matter of fact I do. I think it would be a
> great
> > addition to this board.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- "Turner, Elyse" <elyse_turner@MERCK.COM>
> wrote:
> > > Michael,
> > > Do you have any experience creating a job
> posting
> > > board?
> > > If not, do you know of anyone who does?
> > > Thanks,
> > > Elyse
> > >
> > > Elyse D. Robinson Turner - Sr. Information
> > Scientist
> > > Patent Department, Merck & Co., Inc. RY 60-35
> > > 732-594-6418 [Mon+Tues+Fri] 215-757-2555
> > > [Wed+Thurs]
> > > elyse_turner@merck.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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