The page is still available.... the URL has changed...
http://www.imageapps.co.uk/whatsnew.html
-----Original Message-----
From: ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp [mailto:ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:07 PM
To: piug-l@derwent.co.uk
Subject: RE: How long has patent downloading software been available ?
Dear everyone,
Mr. Bruce Pokras pointed out that Mayall's patent downloading
software, Lattice, was available prior to his priority date on the
following page.
http://www.imageapps.fsnet.co.uk/whatsnew.html
After that, the page was closed immediately. But we can still see it as
the Google's cache of http://www.imageapps.fsnet.co.uk/whatsnew.html on
the following URL.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:RmKS-pC2JHIC:www.imageapps.fsnet.co
.uk/whatsnew.html+&hl=en
Do you think about his behavior ?
Regards,
Ujihara, Kazuya <mailto:ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp>
http://www.aurora.dti.ne.jp/~ujihara/GetIPDL/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk
> [mailto:owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk] On Behalf Of Bruce A. Pokras
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:53 AM
> To: PIUG List
> Subject: Fwd: How long has patent downloading software been
> available ?
>
>
> If you search through Mr. Mayall's own web site, you will find that a
> version of Lattice was available prior to his priority date (look at
> http://www.imageapps.fsnet.co.uk/whatsnew.html and you will see
> several mentions of Lattice prior to June 26, 1999). There is also
> the fact that any kind of patent downloading software is merely a
> specialized form of the offline browsing software that became
> available in the mid-1990's (remember Web Wacker?). So the automated
> downloading of files from the web (it does not matter whether they
> are web pages or patent images, etc.) for viewing or printing later
> is old hat.
>
> Bruce Pokras
>
>
> >Status: U
> >From: "UJIHARA Kazuya" <ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp>
> >To: <piug-l@derwent.co.uk>
> >Subject: How long has patent downloading software been available ?
> >Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 00:56:59 +0900
> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
> >Importance: Normal
> >Sender: owner-piug-l@derwent.co.uk
> >
> >Dear PIUG list,
> >
> >I am UJIHARA Kazuya, the author of GetIPDL, patent downloading
> >software. <http://www.aurora.dti.ne.jp/~ujihara/GetIPDL/>
> >I got some e-mails from Mr. Mayall, the author of PatSee.
> >He says that GetIPDL is infringing his intellectual property
> described
> >in WO01/01234. But, I consider that GetIPDL does not use the arts
> >claimed in WO01/01234.
> >Furthermore, I believe that his invention is not satisfy a patent
> >requirement because the invention is not progressive,
> >and patent downloading software is available on the earliest priority
> >date of WO01/01234.
> >I know one patent downloading software, whose name is PatCite.
> >It was written by Mr. Dudley J. Mills and his product is released on
> >1997 as the version 3.0.
> >In order to make my opinion more reliable, please let me know the
> >following questions.
> > How long has patent downloading software been available ?
> > When were they available ?
> > Who produced them ?
> >
> >Thank you in advance.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >UJIHARA Kazuya <mailto:ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp>
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Support [mailto:support@imageapps.co.uk]
> >Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:51 PM
> >To: ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp
> >Subject: GetIPDL
> >
> >
> >Dear Sirs,
> >
> >Please address all future correspondence regarding the above program
> >and International patent publication number WO 01/01234 to:
> >
> >support@imageapps.co.uk.
> >
> >Legal Department
> >Image Applications Limited
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: lattice@yall.screaming.net [mailto:lattice@yall.screaming.net]
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:05 AM
> >To: UJIHARA Kazuya
> >Subject: Re: Patent Problem
> >
> >
> >Dear Sirs,
> >
> >Thank you for your comments.
> >
> >We would be grateful if you could advise what feature in the
> claims of
> >WO01/01234 is absent from GetIPDL. Presumably you will have
> no problem
> >providing this information if your product genuinely falls
> outside of
> >the claims.
> >
> >In our understanding GetIPDL clearly falls within the claims but we
> >would be pleased if you could explain the basis of your opinion.
> >
> >As you are connected to the intellectual property field you will no
> >doubt understand the seriousness of this matter.
> >
> >Thank you for continued attention.
> >
> >Legal Department
> >Image Applications Limited
> >=================================
> >
> >
> >UJIHARA Kazuya writes:
> >
> >> Dear Sirs,
> >>
> >> I believe that your invention was made to a person having
> ordinary
> >> skill in internet programming. And, GetIPDL does not use the arts
> >> claimed in WO 01/01234. If you continue it, I will consult
> with some
> >> IP newsgroups, mailing lists, and so forth.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ujihara Kazuya
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Image Applications Limited
> [mailto:lattice@yall.screaming.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 7:58 PM
> >> To: ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp
> >> Subject: Patent Problem
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Sirs,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your prompt reply to our e-mail regarding your
> >> product, GetIPDL, and International Patent Application WO
> 01/01234.
> >>
> >> We have read the items from the archive. These items are not
> >> persuasive and, in our opinion, would not be accepted by the Patent
> > > Office or Court as evidence of invalidity. For example
> one item >
> > alleges invalidity over unspecified documents of no proven date.
> >>
> >> As for the alleged prior use of PatCite and DIP-J
> software to which
> >> you refer, again this allegation is unsubstantiated. We are not
> >> aware
> >
> >> of either product having been made available to the public before
> >> the priority date. The evidentiary requirements have not
> been met,
> >> nor do
> >
> >> we believe they can be met as we have no knowledge of
> these products
> >> being made available to the public in any form affecting
> validity of
> >> our patent rights.
> >>
> >> Your manufacture of GetIPDL damages the legitimate business
> >> interests
> >of
> >> Image Applications Limited.
> >>
> >> Your comments within 13 days would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >> Legal Department
> >> Image Applications Limited =================================
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Sirs,
> >>
> >> Please read
> >> http://www.derwent.com/archive/piug/0989.html
> >> http://www.derwent.com/archive/piug/0991.html
> >> . They are similar to my opinion.
> >> Additionally,
> >> Your invention is publicly known and worked in
> PatCite and DIP-J
> >> softwares on priority date of WO 01/01234. What's new in your
> >> invention ?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Image Applications Limited
[mailto:lattice@yall.screaming.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:48 PM
>> To: ujihara@aurora.dti.ne.jp
>> Subject: Patent Problem
>> Importance: High
>>
>>
>> Dear Sirs,
>>
>> We wish to draw your attention to International Patent Application
WO
>> 01/01234. This realtes to software for downloading patents from free
>> servers. We have noticed your software GetIPDL and we are naturally
>> concerned about your activities.
>>
>> Your comments within 14 days would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Legal Department
>> Image Applications Limited
>>
>
>
>
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