As Alan says, Japanese patents are numbered serially. They do not start anew
each year. Japanese Patents are B documents, but not all B documents are
patents. This has caused confusion for some folks who do not read Japanese.
Gerry Gooding
Huntington Beach, CA
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan <aengel@intlscience.com>
To: Peter Steele <Peter.Steele@cursci.co.uk>; piug
<piug-l@derwent.tecc.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: New JP number formats
> Granted Japanese patents are numbered serially. The
> series was reset to start from 2500000 on May 28, 1996.
>
> According to novel format 1), we have the following
> series ending 1996 and starting 1997:
>
> ...
> JP 8-2568299 B 961225
> JP 8-2568300 B 961225
> JP 9-2568301 B 970108
> JP 9-2568302 B 970108
> ....
>
> The '8' and '9' are superfluous. Granted Japanese patents
> are numbered serially just as U.S. granted patents are and
> as granted (registered) Japanese patents always have been.
>
> Starting annually from zero applies to the Kokai and to
> the Kokoku (which are no longer published).
>
> Peter Steele wrote:
>
> > Alan:
> >
> > It has always been my understanding that JP granted patents are numbered
> > afresh from the start of each year, in the same way (but in a separte
> > series) as the Kokai. You may want to double-check this and re-phrase
your
> > question?
> >
> > Peter Steele
> > Current Patents Ltd, London
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aengel@intlscience.com [mailto:aengel@intlscience.com]
> > Sent: 08 January 2000 15:58
> > To: piug
> > Subject: New JP number formats
> >
> > (This is a member submission.)
> >
> > We have recently been receiving document
> > orders for which the document numbers have
> > novel formats.
> >
> > Novel format 1) Example: JP 8-2552720 B 961113
> >
> > This is for a granted Japanese patent. The "8" is
> > superfluous as granted patents are numbered serially
> > as are granted U.S. patents.
> >
> > Novel format 2) Example JP 99-11124987 A
> >
> > This format has be ascribed to Derwent. Here, the
> > Western year "99" and the Japanese year "11"
> > both appear.
> >
> > I hope that the inventors of these formats
> > are not operating under the illusion that they
> > advanced the art of patent information.
> >
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> > ConvertedKokai(tm) machine translations of Japanese patents
> > Paterra(tm) Instant MT(tm) for Japanese patents www.paterra.com
>
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>
>
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